Plato and Aristophanes

Plato and Aristophanes
Author: Marina Marren
Publisher: Northwestern University Press
Total Pages: 208
Release: 2021-11-15
Genre: Philosophy
ISBN: 0810144204

In Plato and Aristophanes, Marina Marren contends that our search for communal justice must start with self-examination. The realization that there are things that we cannot know about ourselves unless we become the subject of a joke is integral to such self-scrutiny. Jokes provide a new perspective on our politics and ethics; they are essential to our civic self-awareness. Marren makes this case by delving into Plato’s Republic, a foundational work of political philosophy. While the Republic straightforwardly condemns the decadence and greed of a tyrant, Plato’s attack on political idealism is both solemn and comedic. In fact, Plato draws on the same comedic stock and tropes as do Aristophanes’s plays. Marren’s book strikes up an innovative conversation between three works by Aristophanes—Assembly Women, Knights, and Birds—and Plato’s philosophy, prompting important questions about individual convictions and one’s personal search for justice. These dialogic works offer critiques of tyranny that are by turns brilliant, scathing, and exuberant, making light of faults and ideals alike. Philosophical comedy exposes despotism in individuals as well as systems of government claiming to be just and good. This critique holds as much bite against contemporary injustices as it did at the time of Aristophanes and Plato. An ingenious new work by an emerging scholar, Plato and Aristophanes shows that comedy—in tandem with philosophy and politics—is essential to self-examination. And without such examination, there is no hope for a just life.

Socrates and Aristophanes

Socrates and Aristophanes
Author: Leo Strauss
Publisher: University of Chicago Press
Total Pages: 330
Release: 1980
Genre: Drama
ISBN: 0226777197

In one of his last books, Socrates and Aristophanes, Leo Strauss's examines the confrontation between Socrates and Aristophanes in Aristophanes' comedies. Looking at eleven plays, Strauss shows that this confrontation is essentially one between poetry and philosophy, and that poetry emerges as an autonomous wisdom capable of rivaling philosophy. "Strauss gives us an impressive addition to his life's work—the recovery of the Great Tradition in political philosophy. The problem the book proposes centers formally upon Socrates. As is typical of Strauss, he raises profound issues with great courage. . . . [He addresses] a problem that has been inherent in Western life ever since [Socrates'] execution: the tension between reason and religion. . . . Thus, we come to Aristophanes, the great comic poet, and his attack on Socrates in the play The Clouds. . . [Strauss] translates it into the basic problem of the relation between poetry and philosophy, and resolves this by an analysis of the function of comedy in the life of the city." —Stanley Parry, National Review

Socrates and the Political Community

Socrates and the Political Community
Author: Mary P. Nichols
Publisher: State University of New York Press
Total Pages: 252
Release: 1987-07-01
Genre: Political Science
ISBN: 1438414676

This book takes a fresh look at Socrates as he appeared to three ancient writers: Aristophanes, who attacked him for his theoretical studies; Plato, who immortalized him in his dialogues; and Aristotle, who criticized his political views. It addresses the questions of the interrelation of politics and philosophy by looking at Aristophanes' Clouds, Plato's Republic, and Book II of Aristotle's Politics—three sides of a debate on the value of Socrates' philosophic life. Mary Nichols first discusses the relation between Aristophanes and Plato, showing that the city as Socrates' place of activity in the Republic resembles the philosophic thinktank mocked in Aristophanes' Clouds. By representing the extremes of the Republic's city, Plato shows that the dangers attributed by Aristophanes to the city are actually inherent in political life itself. They were to be moderated by Socratic political philosophy rather than Aristophanean comedy. Nichols concludes by showing how Aristotle addressed the question at issue between Plato and Aristophanes when he founded his political science. Judging Plato's and Aristophanes' positions as partial, Nichols argues that Aristotle based his political science on the necessity to philosophy of political involvement and the necessity to politics of philosophical thought.

Myths of the Underworld Journey

Myths of the Underworld Journey
Author: Radcliffe G. Edmonds, III
Publisher: Cambridge University Press
Total Pages: 288
Release: 2004-09-20
Genre: History
ISBN: 9780521834346

Plato, Aristophanes, and the creators of the "Orphic" gold tablets employ the traditional tale of a journey to the realm of the dead to redefine, within the mythic narrative, the boundaries of their societies. Rather than being the relics of a faded ritual tradition or the products of Orphic influence, these myths can only reveal their meanings through this detailed analysis of the specific ways in which each author makes use of the tradition.

Philosophy & Comedy

Philosophy & Comedy
Author: Bernard Freydberg
Publisher: Indiana University Press
Total Pages: 504
Release: 2008
Genre: Drama
ISBN: 0253351065

Reveals comedy's contributions to the philosophical enterprise

Rereading Ancient Philosophy

Rereading Ancient Philosophy
Author: Verity Harte
Publisher: Cambridge University Press
Total Pages: 323
Release: 2017-12-28
Genre: Philosophy
ISBN: 1107194970

Revisits central texts and themes in ancient philosophy in order to throw fresh light on some familiar passages and debates.

Apologia

Apologia
Author: Plato
Publisher:
Total Pages: 322
Release: 1924
Genre: Burnet, John, 1863-1928
ISBN:

The Symposium

The Symposium
Author: Plato
Publisher: Prentice Hall
Total Pages:
Release: 2006-08-29
Genre:
ISBN: 9780131582194

Excerpt: ...sort is there any disgrace in being deceived, but in every other case there is equal disgrace in being or not being deceived. For he who is gracious to his lover under the impression that he is rich, and is disappointed of his gains because he turns out to be poor, is disgraced all the same: for he has done his best to show that he would give himself up to any one's 'uses base' for the sake of money; but this is not honourable. And on the same principle he who gives himself to a lover because he is a good man, and in the hope that he will be improved by his company, shows himself to be virtuous, even though the object of his affection turn out to be a villain, and to have no virtue; and if he is deceived he has committed a noble error. For he has proved that for his part he will do anything for anybody with a view to virtue and improvement, than which there can be nothing nobler. Thus noble in every case is the acceptance of another for the sake of virtue. This is that love which is the love of the heavenly godess, and is heavenly, and of great price to individuals and cities, making the lover and the beloved alike eager in the work of their own improvement. But all other loves are the offspring of the other, who is the common goddess. To you, Phaedrus, I offer this my contribution in praise of love, which is as good as I could make extempore. Pausanias came to a pause

The Cambridge Companion to Socrates

The Cambridge Companion to Socrates
Author: Donald R. Morrison
Publisher: Cambridge University Press
Total Pages: 437
Release: 2011
Genre: Biography & Autobiography
ISBN: 0521833426

Essays from a diverse group of experts providing a comprehensive guide to Socrates, the most famous Greek philosopher.